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Decoder Ring - The Mall is Dead (Long Live the Mall)

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🗓️ 26 July 2022

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

What do we lose if we lose the mall? 70 years into their existence, these hulking temples to commerce are surprisingly resilient and filled with contradictions. In this episode, Alexandra Lange, the author of the new book Meet Me at the Fountain: an Inside History of the Mall walks us through the atriums, escalators, and food courts of this singular suburban space. We also hear from mall-goers whose personal experiences help us make sense of this disdained yet beloved, disappearing yet surviving place.

This episode of Decoder Ring was written by Willa Paskin and produced by Willa Paskin and Katie Shepherd. Derek John is Sr. Supervising Producer of Narrative Podcasts. Merritt Jacob is our Technical Director.

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0:00.0

It's reductive to say there are two kinds of people in the world, but I'm going to go

0:10.5

ahead and say it.

0:12.0

There are two kinds of Americans in the world.

0:14.5

The ones who've had a mall in their life and the ones who haven't.

0:18.4

I'm in the second category, but hearing people talk about their mall almost makes me wish

0:23.6

I weren't.

0:28.1

I once, you know, like, fit of rage as a tween, was like, I'm going with them all and

0:33.6

walked there.

0:34.6

And that was like the wildest thing I'd ever done, right?

0:36.9

I remember buying my first and last, I think, actually white leather belt because I felt

0:43.6

like I had to have that to go with like black jeans or something.

0:46.6

I would not do that now.

0:49.3

I remember going to Mrs. Fields Cookies, actually that's where I learned that Tupac Shakur

0:53.8

had died while it's like waiting in line for chocolate cookies.

0:58.6

There's a store called Kaby Toys.

1:01.2

There's one time it was going out of business and they had all these canes and wooden swords,

1:07.0

all these random fake weapons.

1:08.8

And we're like, let's spy.

1:10.5

It's hon of them.

1:11.5

Get a group of 20 friends together and have a duel and we did that.

1:17.0

So my mall was Northgate Mall in Durham, North Carolina, which is no more.

1:22.5

What is the mall where I shop for my chore coat at Sears, which was kind of an important

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