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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Decoder Live: Fired FTC commissioners fight back

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

A few days ago, I hosted a panel with FTC commissioners Rebecca Slaughter and Alvaro Bedoya at the IAPP Global Privacy Summit in Washington, DC. We recorded the discussion, and we’re bringing it to you today. Normal Decoder stuff, but these are anything but normal times. Becca and Alvaro were FTC commissioners until very recently, when President Donald Trump fired them — but he doesn't have that legal authority. They’re suing to get their jobs back, and they’re prepared to go all the way to SCOTUS if they have to. Links:  Trump fires Democratic FTC commissioners | The Verge Fired FTC commissioners sue Trump | The Verge The case for breaking up Google has never been stronger | The Verge The government doesn’t understand Meta | The Verge FTC v Meta live: updates from the battle for Instagram, WhatsApp | The Verge DOGE has arrived at the FTC | The Verge Inside Mark Zuckerberg’s failed negotiations with the FTC | Wall Street Journal FTC chair says he’d drop Meta case if lawfully ordered to | The Verge Bedoya warns of “corrupting influence of billionaires”| The Verge The FTC has enough staff to sue Amazon, after all | The Verge Transcript: ⁠https://www.theverge.com/e/657115⁠ Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright.  The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello and welcome to Decoder. I'm Nilillai Patel, editor-in-chief of The Verge, and Decoder is my show

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about big ideas and other problems. We have something special for you today. A few days ago,

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