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🗓️ 24 June 2020
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In this episode of Intelligence Matters DECLASSIFIED: Spy Stories from the Officers Who Were There, host Michael Morell interviews Sarah Carlson, former CIA Targeting Analyst and author of "In the Dark of War: A CIA Officer's Inside Account of the U.S. Evacuation from Libya." Carlson recounts the harrowing 2014 decision to remove U.S. personnel from war-torn Libya, which included numerous tense negotiations with local militia leaders and the movement of a multi-vehicle convoy from Tripoli to Tunis -- and, in the end, may have saved over a hundred American lives. Intelligence Matters DECLASSIFIED is new series dedicated to featuring first-hand accounts from former intelligence officers.
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0:18.0 | In July of 2014, the Civil War really sort of kicked off on the 13th and that started again with a rocket attack against |
0:28.0 | Tripoli International Airport and we were very close to the airport. So the chance of being hit was quite high and there were hundreds of rockets being launched every day. |
0:44.0 | My boss sort of gave us briefing and let us know that we were going to be evacuating that kicked off the destruction and that's when we really started burning everything. |
0:56.0 | Kind of like in the movies, right? I'm treading and burning and putting nails through hard drives and that kind of thing. |
1:06.0 | Wrote that getting through the first checkpoint was the most dangerous part of the evacuation. |
1:13.0 | So to go south through that route, one of the reasons that it was not our first choice was because part of it was through hostile little territory. |
1:20.0 | So was this other tribe that had been really supportive of Kadoffi and did not appreciate the US intervention during the Arab Spring. |
1:28.0 | I knew every single one of those security officers would die to keep me safe and I knew that they felt the same way about me and that I would do that for them as well. |
1:38.0 | So I think that, you know, confidence in each other really was a big part in what made it a successful operation. |
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2:50.0 | Sarah Carlson served as an analyst in the Central Intelligence Agency's counterterrorism center where she specialized in threats directed against the United States in Europe. |
2:59.0 | Sarah has just written a terrific book titled In the Dark of War, a CIA officers inside account of the US evacuation from Libya. |
3:08.0 | Sarah recently sat down with us to talk about her book as part of our series of episodes on real-life spy stories. |
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