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🗓️ 1 July 2020
⏱️ 40 minutes
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In this episode of Intelligence Matters, host Michael Morell speaks with David Shimer, author of Rigged: America, Russia and 100 Years of Covert Electoral Interference. Shimer provides examples of Russian and American electoral interference in countries around the world over nearly a century. He explains how Russia's playbook has been applied repeatedly and in novel ways to influence American democratic processes -- including in 2016. Morell and Shimer discuss ways the U.S. should seek to bolster its defenses against new potential Russian incursions in 2020.
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0:09.0 | This is Intelligence Matters, with former acting director of the CIA, Michael Morel. |
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0:16.3 | Your mission is ours. |
0:18.4 | Across history, American and Russian intelligence have interfered in elections in order to |
0:23.1 | help their preferred candidate and disadvantage the candidate they oppose. |
0:28.2 | But the difference is sort of your hopes for the system. |
0:30.9 | So the Soviet Union and the Russia have sought to tear down the system, which is a democracy |
0:35.7 | via elections or how it in democracies. |
0:40.0 | And then with Putin today, his aim is to elect candidates who are authoritarian-minded, |
0:46.2 | divisive, exclusive, rather than inclusive, nationalist, rather than internationalists |
0:51.4 | who will corrupt and tear down their democracies from within. |
0:54.6 | And trust that with the American objective, which is that when America has engaged in |
0:58.7 | covert electoral interference, a motivation behind these operations for American presidents |
1:04.2 | is to support candidates who will strengthen or guard their democracies. |
1:08.3 | 2020, the election is now only four months away. |
1:15.0 | What do you expect from the Russians this time around? |
1:18.7 | What I'm watching for from between now and election day is how Russia seeks to manipulate |
1:23.2 | voters. |
1:24.2 | Russia seeks to corrupt our information space in order to get Americans to support Donald |
1:29.8 | Trump and also in order to so discord and chaos in our society. |
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