Declaration of Independence | Follow The Money | 1
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🗓️ 2 June 2026
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Summary
What if the Boston Tea Party had less to do with liberty and more to do with a smuggler protecting his profit margins? What if hurricanes tearing through the Caribbean helped light the fuse of revolution? And, what if the men who gave birth to America were not visionary idealists but wealthy merchants who had simply run out of patience with British trade restrictions?
Peter and Afua pull back the curtain on the financial machinery behind American independence — the Caribbean slave economy, the smuggling networks, the Bengal famine, and the merchants who dressed their self-interest in the language of liberty.
(0:00) It wasn't about democracy. It was about who controlled the money
(2:00) Britain's debt doubles after the Seven Years' War — and someone has to pay for it
(7:50) The colonists were richer, taller, and paid less tax than anyone in Britain
(11:50) Tea, empire, and why the whole system was built on piracy
(13:30) The Boston Tea Party: orderly political theatre and a £10,000 act of destruction
(17:35) The Boston Massacre and the propaganda machine that turned it into a rallying cry
(20:30) The Caribbean cash machine — and how hurricanes made colonial merchants very rich
(27:20) John Hancock: celebrated patriot, and according to British customs officials, the head of a massive smuggling operation
(30:00) The first Continental Congress: protecting constitutional rights — and profit margins
(34:00) The Bengal famine, 10 million dead, and why it became a weapon against British imperialism
(38:00) Neither side wanted war — and that's exactly how they stumbled into one
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| 0:00.0 | We think we know why America broke away from Britain. It's all about taxation without representation. |
| 0:05.2 | It's a noble fight for liberty. It's about the birth of democracy. |
| 0:09.3 | But the real story is considerably messier and considerably more concerned with profit. |
| 0:16.6 | So today we're going to look at the merchants, the smugglers, the hurricane chasers, |
| 0:20.0 | the men who built their vast fortunes, the smugglers, the hurricane chasers, the men who built |
| 0:21.2 | their vast fortunes through the Caribbean slave economy, and decided the British trade restrictions |
| 0:25.9 | weren't bad for business. Men like John Hancock, the celebrated Patriot, and according to British |
| 0:31.3 | customs officials, the head of one of the largest smuggling operations in the colonies. |
| 0:37.9 | And we're also going to touch on how famine that killed maybe 10 million people in Bengal, |
| 0:42.3 | as well as a series of hurricanes in the Caribbean, help light the fuse of American independence. |
| 0:48.5 | It turns out, Peter, surprise, but it wasn't just about revolutionary ideals and democracy. |
| 0:55.8 | This was also, in large part, about who controlled the money. |
| 1:00.8 | Hello and welcome to a new episode of Legacy. I'm Peter Frank Gapern. |
| 1:04.8 | I'm Afrohersh. |
| 1:06.1 | And this is Legacy, the show that explores the lives, events and ideas that have shaped our world |
| 1:10.9 | and asks whether they have the reputations that they truly deserve. |
| 1:15.0 | This is American Independence Follow the Money. |
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