December Bonus Episode
The Shit No One Tells You About Writing
Bianca Marais, Carly Watters and CeCe Lyra
4.8 • 842 Ratings
🗓️ 29 December 2025
⏱️ 103 minutes
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Summary
In our final bonus episode of 2025, we uncover what really happens inside a literary agency. This week, we’re giving you a fly-on-the-wall look at a real agent meeting.
CeCe is joined by fellow agents from Wendy Sherman Associates to talk trends, romantasy, cover reveals, editor movement, author marketing pressure, and what agents actually do after a book sells. Honest, funny, and packed with insider insight—this is publishing, unfiltered.
Don’t miss our final comps for 2025 with Emilie Sommers!
Note: CeCe Lyra is a literary agent at Wendy Sherman Associates. If you’d like to query CeCe, please refer to the submission guidelines at www.wsherman.com. Carly Watters is a literary agent at P.S. Literary Agency, but her work on this podcast is not affiliated with the agency, and the views expressed by Carly on this podcast are solely that of her as a podcast co-host and do not necessarily reflect the views, opinions, policies, or position of P.S. Literary Agency.
Wendy Sherman Associates, Inc. is the home of award-winning writers and bestselling books. Wendy Sherman (president and founder) loves voice and story-driven fiction that hits that sweet spot between literary and mainstream, as well as non-fiction with a unique twist by authors with a strong, well-developed media platform. Cherise Fisher (vice president) is passionate about working with novelists who have several compulsively readable yarns in their head and are committed to perfecting their craft as storytellers. Laura Mazer specializes in adult nonfiction with a focus on women’s issues, intelligent pop culture, counterintuitive self-help, as well as upmarket fiction. Callie Deitrick is looking for stories with fresh hooks and strong, character-driven plot, with a soft spot for light speculative fiction. And of course you know CeCe Lyra, our co-host, who feels incredibly lucky to have joined the WSA team. If you are interested in querying a WSA agent, please visit https://www.wsherman.com/submission-guidelines/
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| 2:00.5 | 365-day returns. Quince.com slash T- not yaw hi there and welcome to our show the ship no one tells you |
| 2:14.8 | about writing i'm best-selling author b author Bianca Murray and I'm joined by |
| 2:20.0 | Cece Leera of Wendy Sherman Associates and Carly Waters of PS Literary. Welcome everyone to a |
| 2:28.8 | very special episode of our podcast. Listen, we've had some really fun original episodes on the show, |
| 2:37.6 | but I feel like today's episode will become a fan favorite. This is my prediction. Let's see |
| 2:43.7 | if I'm right or not. So we have, if you're on Zoom, you already know, we have all four of my |
| 2:49.4 | fantastic colleagues at Wendy Sherman Associates. |
| 2:52.8 | So we have, of course, Wendy Sherman, our veteran, our eponymous founder, the veteran publishing professional that everyone wants to be. |
| 3:00.5 | We have Charisse Fisher, who recently got a new title at the agency. |
| 3:05.3 | She is now the vice president, although I heard that a few people |
| 3:08.5 | call her the queen, so we'll have to ask her about that. Laura Mazer, Laura Mazers are superstar |
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