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The Playbook Podcast

December 4, 2024: Is Hegseth headed for the door?

The Playbook Podcast

POLITICO

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🗓️ 4 December 2024

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

With Matt Gaetz gone, Pete Hegseth may be next on the chopping block. The Secretary of Defense nominee has to reckon with—and explain to Republican senators—the recent allegations of fund mismanagement, drinking on the job, and sexual promiscuity. President-elect Donald Trump is said to be eyeing an unlikely candidate for the role if his first choice doesn’t pan out: his longtime Republican rival, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis. Plus, Republicans on Capitol Hill are embroiled in internal debate over two policy bills, while Democrats in the House are dealing with their own internal conflict between Reps. Jamie Raskin of Maryland and Jerry Nadler of New York.

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presented by BP.

0:05.4

Good morning, everyone. I'm playbook co-author Rachel Bade. It's Wednesday, December 4th, and here's what's driving the day.

0:11.6

In the hours after Matt Gates withdrew from consideration for Attorney General, one Republican senator had this rather blunt prediction to me.

0:20.0

Pete's next. And yes, he met Pete Hegseth,

0:23.3

Trump's in battle pick to run the Pentagon. That, we'll note, was before the New Yorker

0:28.2

detailed whistleblower allegations about his extensive mismanagement of two veterans focused

0:33.2

on profits, and before the New York Times scooped that his mother once called him a, quote, despicable

0:38.6

abuser of women. That prediction that Pete's nomination was the next to fall appears to be coming

0:44.8

to fruition. Multiple Senate Republican and Trump world sources told me last night that Hexat's nomination

0:50.6

right now is on life support after those recent damaging revelations about

0:55.0

drinking on the job, sexual permacuity while he was married, and financial mismanagement

1:00.4

of even small organizations. Even some Republican senators closely allied with Donald Trump

1:05.9

appear to be souring on him. Just two days ago, for example, Senator Cynthia Lemous called the allegations against

1:12.4

Hexeth a, quote, side issue, rhetorically asking, are soldiers sometimes wild childs? Yes, that can

1:19.4

happen. Well, here's Lummus yesterday. These allegations that have come up in just the last 12 to 14

1:25.1

hours are a surprise to all of us. So yes, he does need to address

1:29.5

those because this was not something of which we were aware, nor was President Trump aware of them.

1:35.4

Different tune, to say the least. Then there's this from Senator Lindsey Graham, Trump's Senate

1:40.2

whisperer. I think some of these articles are very disturbing. He obviously has a chance to

1:45.6

defend himself here, but some of this stuff, it's going to be difficult. Again, that's Graham.

1:51.8

Trump, meanwhile, is reportedly considering tapping Ron DeSantis, yes, Ron DeSantis, his former

1:57.3

arch nemesis in Florida, to replace Hegsef as defense secretary. That's according to the

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