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You're in the Paracast, the gold standard of paranormal radio.

And now, here's Gene Steinberg.

So Chris will be with us in a moment or two, but we're going to explore the road to strange travel tales of the

paranormal and beyond. And we're welcoming back, Rosemary Ellen Geiley. Welcome back to the Paracast.

Hi there, Jane. It's great to be back. And Michael Bryan will be joining us a little bit later.

He's a co-author of the book.

And we're going to find out what they did, how they did it, and how this whole thing got started.

It's also, as you can see, when you look at the book, it's a collection of different articles from different people on these subjects.

And we'll find out how those selections were made and how this thing got started.

But right now, Rosemary, you probably haven't kept up to date on every little nuance of it.

But we've had these stories here that, I guess, under the behest of former U.S.

Senator Harry Reid, who was then Senate

Majority Leader, to have a Pentagon-based investigation into UFOs.

And that's gotten a bit of publicity. I mean, not an extensive amount. It's always like

these extra stories that the talking heads on cable TV put on when they aren't covering budget

battles, Trump, and all the other stuff that's happening. How did you first hear about it?

I read the articles as they broke in the media. I had a reaction that's probably similar to

many people who have followed the field over the years.

It's, well, what's new about the reality of UFOs and what took you so long?

People have been having extraordinary experiences, including commercial airline pilots, military pilots, astronauts, people in everyday walks of life.

They've been having experiences for decades and decades. We've had all kinds of studies,

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