Hey, good morning. I am Playbook co-author Eugene Daniels. It is Wednesday, December 20th, and you already know what's driving the day.

Last night, the Colorado Supreme Court ruled that former President Donald Trump is disqualified from serving as president again because he stoked an insurrection on January

the 6th. The ruling was close of 4-3 and cites the third section of the 14th Amendment.

This will also, if it sticks around this ruling, remove him from the state's 2024 ballot.

Joining me now to chat about this unprecedented ruling, kind of earth-shaking ruling,

is legal reporter, guru, our bestie on this pod, Kyle Cheney. Kyle, thank you so much for being

here.

We finally have something to talk about.

You know, we never, we never have anything.

I know. Never any legal things happening in this country. So I'm so excited finally that we were able to get you on the pod again. I guess for a lot of us, you know, we knew this case was happening. We knew it was something that was splitting Democrats on on whether or not they wanted this to go through. But I don't know

that people, what people were expecting. I wasn't expecting to see this from the Colorado Supreme

Court. First question, were you expecting it and kind of get into the nitty gritty of what

they ruled here? You know, we watched the arguments before the Colorado Supreme Court, and we got no

clear read on where they were leaning. And in fact, the ruling reflects that. It was, as you mentioned,

a closely divided four-three court. And again, these are all Democratic appointees. So as you said,

Democrats are kind of split about this around the country. The court was split about this,

and they're all Democratic appointees. So I think it shows you this is a very complicated issue. And I think the bottom line intellectually, at least, is if January 6th was an insurrection and Donald Trump contributed to it, stoked it, engaged in it, then he's disqualified for being president. That is what the Constitution says. The question is the Constitution doesn't tell you, how do you actually make that

call? Who decides, yes, this is an insurrection? Who decides, yes, Donald Trump participated in it,

and who decides that means, therefore, he's ineligible for running for office? Well, in this case,

the Colorado court said, we can decide that, and we do decide that. And that may be where this

runs into some problems when it

goes to the you know the federal courts yeah i mean talk to the actual timing of all of this right

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