Hey, I'm Brian Stelter, live in New York.

And this is reliable sources, where we examine the story behind the story

and figure out what is actually reliable.

This hour, Tucker Carlson, fanning the flames of vaccine skepticism, the significance

of what he's doing and why it's so troubling.

Plus, Dean Bicke, the executive editor of the New York Times, admits to an institutional failing involving one of its most popular

podcasts.

But is the paper getting off too easy after this scandal?

Plus Washington Post executive editor Marty Barron, he's with me to talk about the post-expansion

around the world. We're also going to do a post-mortem of the Trump presidency.

Many great guests coming up in the next few minutes. But first, the best word for what's happening in America

right now is radicalization. That's what it is. That's what this hyped-up

right-wing medium machine is doing. That's why it feels harder to talk about

politics with other people. Harder to speak a common language about right and

wrong. Harder to meet in the proverbial middle because some news junkies some relatives some neighbors

are being radicalized. When Trump lifers are calling for troops in the streets

because they lost an election that's radicalization.

When they start speculating about breaking off

and creating their own country, that is radicalization.

All of this election denialism talk is radical.

And yet it is infesting the airways it's everywhere in the pro-Trump

media. When a former Houston police captain points a gun at an ordinary air

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