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And now, here's Gene Steinberg.

Before we introduce our guest, Chago, to Checky,

we're going to talk about this great show we did last week

with the one only original Alan Greenfield. And you know, with Alan, you just say talk and you walk away for a week. Yeah, there's no stopping him once he gets going, that's for sure.

And if you do, then don't expect to come back from where you left off.

So he's very stream of consciousness person.

And like he says he likes to come at the whole UFO topic

from right angles to the mainstream, very, very somewhat what I would call fringe, although I think

he might dispute that. Well, Alan and I first got started in considering other alternatives to UFOs back in the mid-60s.

We had this meeting at one of the hotels in New York City on New Year's Eve.

Now, at that point, we were underage.

We couldn't drink, or we could, but I didn't drink.

And Alan didn't either.

We just talked all night every time he came to New York.

And this time is where we propounded the alternate reality theory suggesting that UFOs, because we always see them near Earth or on Earth, not in space, maybe come in from a parallel universe or dimension. That's where it started for us. Of course, other people picked up on it. Well, I think that's really actually forward thinking.

It's my favorite hypothesis because I just like the way that it works.

It adds a whole new, greater dimension dimension to the whole aspect of existence for everyone. But we can't always

go with, say, just what we think we like the most. I think we have to also look at what seems

to make the most sense. Alan, I love talking to him, but he just didn't want to acknowledge

practicality of considering that, well, we know about this universe, and

we know that there's stars out there and that every star has planets around it now.

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