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The Playbook Podcast

December 14, 2023: Biden’s border policy dilemma

The Playbook Podcast

POLITICO

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🗓️ 14 December 2023

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

As it weighs how to proceed in negotiations over a new tranche of aid to Ukraine, the Biden administration faces a dilemma of both policy and politics: How much can they concede on border security without losing ground with Democratic voters in 2024? The answer to that question is complicated — both on Capitol Hill, where progressives are fuming at Biden for what they see as caving to the right, and in the general public, where independent voters are fuming at Biden for being too far to the left on matters of migration. White House reporter Jen Haberkorn joins Playbook co-author Rachael Bade to explore the ins and outs of the latest fight roiling Washington. Playbook co-author Rachael Bade interviews White House reporter Jen Haberkorn.

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0:00.0

Presented by Google.

0:05.8

Hey, good morning. I'm Playbook co-author Rachel Bade. It's Thursday, December 14th.

0:10.8

In recent weeks, the Biden White House's justification for engaging in U.S.-Mexico border negotiations

0:16.1

with Republicans in return for a tranche of new Ukraine aid, has sounded something like this.

0:22.7

Democracy and our national security is at stake here. Stopping Russia now means avoiding an

0:28.0

escalation with Moscow, possibly another world war. But there's a simpler, albeit more callous

0:34.5

reason. The politics are good for President Joe Biden.

0:38.0

At least, that's the central finding in a recent poll commissioned by Blueprint.

0:42.6

That's a new public opinion research firm aimed at delivering tough talk to Democrats

0:46.9

in order to secure Biden's reelection.

0:50.1

The study was shared with Playbook exclusively last night, and the results find that, number one,

0:56.1

voters align more with Donald Trump than Biden on matters of immigration, asylum, and the border.

1:01.5

That more than half of respondents said they want the U.S. to reduce the number of refugees

1:05.5

and asylum seekers it takes in.

1:08.3

And then a majority of voters prefer a deal that ties foreign aid with stricter border

1:12.8

security than one that doesn't address the border at all. The group's head pollster, Evan Roth

1:18.6

Smith, sent us a statement saying that the current Ukraine and Israel aid negotiations offer Biden

1:23.8

an opportunity to positively realign voter perceptions of his immigration policy.

1:29.6

Such a deal, he says, will reach voters that Democrats need to win elections, and Biden would

1:35.0

disappoint far more of them with inaction than he'd alienate through a well-structured deal on

1:40.6

border and foreign aid. Now, this advice to hug the center at the expense of the base has

1:45.4

proven fruitful for Democratic presidents in the past. Party elders still recall how President

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