You can read them on MMQB. Bird, thank you for joining us. You got it, fellas. I really enjoyed on the way in hearing again about Zoom. I forgot about that game. Yeah. It was, because I remember there were, like, I remember when you guys to have Mon, I think for the first few weeks it was a real struggle, wasn't it? Oh, he sucked. He was 50-50. Like 50% of the time, it was the worst thing ever. He would suck and I would get really mad. And then 50% of the time, he would say something so glorious. Like, we asked him one time, we talked to football and we were just like, all right, so what kind of music do you listen to? And he started talking about, you know, music, what's the best concert? He said, he goes, oh, yeah. One time I saw those two guys, the Dave and Matthew band. Yeah, I saw him up on the hill. That was a big turning point. That's true. See, I thought Zoom was the turning point. Zoom was, yeah, Zoom might have been the turning point. And it was just, yeah, he was back then,

he wasn't savvy enough.

You're scared of some shadow. You guys should have seen him as a rookie, like, because that was what, it was probably second or third year. It was a second year. Because I don't think that Bill lets people do interviews as a rookie. It was his second year. Yes. I mean, I remember being around that team, and I think at the beginning of his rookie year, I was still at the globe, so I was there a lot.

And... I mean, I remember being around that team, and I think at the beginning of his rookie year, I was still at the globe, so I was there a lot. And, like, we all thought he had no personality. Grunk? Because he was so scared every time he talked. You see, it's so funny because Mike in the other room. You literally thought he had no personality. That first year, even before he played a down for the Patriots, Mike Lockhart in the other room, who's our fantasy football guy,

who, no... no personality. That first year, even before he played a down for the Patriots, Mike Lockhart in the other room, who's our fantasy football guy, who follows all these dudes through the draft in the combine. He goes, this guy's going to be a star. The day he got drafted, he said that. And he goes, watch this. Remember the video of them? Of them jumping up and down? Grow, grow, grow, grow, the whole family. And he goes, listen, I've seen other stuff from this guy. He is going to be a star. And our whole opinion was two baddies with the Patriots, because you're never going to see that person out. I mean, he was scared of his own shadow as a rookie. Like, would, like, was careful with every single thing he said. And did they scared him? Oh, yeah. Bill got in his head. There's no question because, and that happens with a lot of guys. Yeah. But with him, it was like, my guess is Bill knew there was potential for disaster early on. Like, he could say something and it could become a big deal. And so I'm guessing Bill just put the fear in God of him. Well, I think the moment... More so than he would even, even like the normal rookie. I think where he kind of stopped, like, being scared as much as he was, was after the B.B. Jones thing. Because remember how people were freaking out around here when he took that picture with the porn star? I mean, the best thing it came out of... There wasn't during the buy week, too, right?

It wasn't even off-season.

It was nothing.

It was nothing, but it was during the season, which is a big deal for them. Right, but I mean, bang a million porn stars. I mean, I don't understand why you wouldn't. The best part of that story was the fact that he travels with his own jersey just so people could take pictures of him.

I mean, that was the best part.

Yeah, it was like an official jersey.

Right.

You're like, all was like an official jersey.

Right. I was like, all right.

So you tried. We asked him about that.

See, he used to be so great at times. Like, we had him on

and we had B.B. Jones on.

And the first thing we told Grom was just like, you have

nothing to be ashamed of in all this and I think even when Robert Kraft kind of gave him, I don't want to see the seal of approval, but didn't get angry, he's just like, all right,

just kind of watch yourself. Because then they run into each other in the hall and he's like, all right, that's the story, it's like a drive-by thing. After that, when he realized that he could do something that everyone got outraged by for some weird reason, yet the owner was like, all right.

I think at that point he kind of called down.

I like that, like patting him on the head, like, as a dog who took a dump in the corner.

Pretty much. Okay. I would like to see Robert Kraft try to put him on the head. All right. Need a step ladder. All right. So, what does Belichick say? Because all know that, and no player will tell you.

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