I've been going mental, I'm losing my mind,

cause you're on it all of the time.

I've been going mental, but I'm feeling just fine.

Going mental all of the time.

On today's episode, I'm joined by Dr. Brandon Unruh. He is the medical director of the

Gunderson residence, an intensive specialized residential program for women with severe

personality disorders at McLean

Hospital. His clinical approach is anchored in the integration of evidence-based treatments,

such as dialectical behavioral therapy, mentalization-based treatment, and general psychiatric

management. He has published on a variety of topics, including medical ethics and general hospital psychiatry,

and his academic interests include the examination of philosophical and spiritual issues from psychiatric perspective.

Can you introduce yourself, please?

Sure thing.

So my name is Brandon Unruh, and I'm a psychiatrist and psychotherapist at McLean Hospital,

which is a freestanding psychiatric hospital located just outside of Boston in Massachusetts.

And for the last 10 years since finishing my training as a psychiatrist, I've been a specialist

in treating what are referred to within our field as personality disorders.

And my day job is that I run two different programs that deliver treatment for personality

disorders. In one of those jobs, I'm the medical director of the Gunderson

residence, which is named after John Gunderson, who was sort of the so-called parent of

borderline personality disorder. And I'm also the director of an outpatient treatment clinic

at McLean that employs a specific evidence-based treatment for borderline personality disorder. And I also have a

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