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Debunking Myths About Trans Athletes With Ellie Roscher

Made It Out

Made It Out Media

Relationships, Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Trans athletes are often treated as a political issue. For Ellie Roscher, they’re her students, her community, and the reason she’s rethinking what fairness really means. Ellie, author of Fair Game, joins the pod to discuss listening to your body and yourself. She reflects on teaching theology at a Catholic school, learning from her trans students, and her journey as a gymnast whose chronic pain wasn’t believed. This episode explores how fairness becomes personal—and why it matters in women’s sports. If you want to read Fair Game: Trans Athletes and the Future of Sports, you can grab it wherever you get your books!!  Follow our guest @ellieroscher, follow the show @madeitout and follow Mal @malglowenke Plus, don’t miss the YouHaul or YouGhost card game. Perfect for move-ins, breakups, and girls’ nights! Now available ⁠here⁠ :)  👉 Subscribe, like & comment to support queer content! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hey, all, welcome back to Made It Out.

1:01.8

Today I'm here with Ellie Rorscher, the author of Fair Game, trans athletes, and the future of sports.

1:16.0

Oh, Oh, Oh. and the future of sports. Author.

1:16.9

How fucking cool.

1:19.5

And we have just been gabbing.

1:22.6

I'm already in love with you.

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I'm in love with you right back.

1:26.8

I'm so excited for our conversation today. I want to start with a little bit with you. Love with you right back. I'm so excited for our conversation today.

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