Debunking MAGA Myths about the Economy (w/ Catherine Rampell)
The Mona Charen Show
The Bulwark
4.5 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 5 January 2026
⏱️ 68 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Maybe we could be a little bit more strategic about only going after things that are actually significant to national security or to military use as opposed to Christmas tree ornaments, which we are also terrifying for some unknown reason. |
| 0:17.3 | National emergency, I'm sure. |
| 0:19.3 | National emergency, exactly'm sure. National emergency, exactly. |
| 0:25.3 | Welcome to the Mona Charrin Show. |
| 0:27.7 | So glad you could join me today. |
| 0:29.7 | I am delighted to welcome the bulwarks newest pundit. |
| 0:36.8 | That is Catherine Rampelel formerly of the washington post who covers economics |
| 0:43.2 | and other matters but she is mostly a specialist on the economic front which is much needed all |
| 0:51.1 | the time but especially right now with the nuttiness that we are living through. |
| 0:56.9 | So, Catherine, welcome. |
| 0:58.4 | Thanks so much for joining me. |
| 1:00.1 | Great to join you. |
| 1:01.2 | Thanks for having me. |
| 1:02.2 | We are now completing Trump's, basically Trump's first year of his second term. |
| 1:07.8 | And I thought now would be a good time to revisit some of the MAGA claims that were made, |
| 1:16.8 | they've been made for many years now, but in particular in 2024, about what he was going to be |
| 1:25.6 | able to do once in office. |
| 1:28.4 | I'd like to start with a bugaboo of mine, |
| 1:33.3 | and that is this constant story that he has been telling, |
| 1:39.9 | and now the whole Republican Party has joined in, |
| 1:42.4 | and honestly some parts of the Democratic Party, too, |
| 1:46.1 | namely that we have had this terrible decline in manufacturing jobs in America because we made bad trade deals |
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