Hi, I'm Zibi Owens, and you're listening to the Webby-nominated podcast, Moms, don't have time to read books.

I'm excited to be interviewing Deborah Burns today, who's the author of memoir Saturday's Child, a daughter's memoir, a former media chief innovation officer and brand leader for El Girl, Metropolitan Home, El Decor, and El Global Marketing.

Deborah has helped many brands and execs reinvent themselves. She founded Skirting the Rules, a firm that helps other women find meaningful futures.

She currently lives on Long Island with her husband and close to her three grown

children. So welcome, Deborah. Thanks so much for coming on, Mom's, and have time to read books.

My pleasure. Thank you, Hibby. So can you please tell listeners what Saturday's child, a daughter's

memoir is about, and what inspired you to write it? So this book is about my very unconventional, larger than my mother. I was an only child who

danced around an otherworldly beautiful goddess of a mother. And life with her was really all I knew.

She may have been a tad narcissistic, not a word I knew back then.

And she was always central to my life.

And when she was 56, she got breast cancer and after some lingering was not a survivor. And more than 20 years after her death,

would have always carrying her with me. My life was changing and I realized it was time to reflect on that

critically important relationship to me.

And so the book was born from that reflection,

which was full of revelation.

And then I got inspired to actually write a book

when I was on a trip to London with my own daughter. So the mother

daughter story sort of continues. And what do you think aside from the larger than life

personality of your mom, and obviously I know having read it, but what do you think is the most

distinctive aspect of your relationship with your mom?. What did you think made this bookworthy?

So I was born into the prim conservative 1950s and my mother was anything but. I think what makes this

book worthy is even though my relationship with my mother was a unique one, it was a very

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