Debbie Reynolds and Carrie Fisher: Two of a Kind | 277

Even the Rich

Wondery

Society & Culture

4.3 • 11.5K Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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In honor of Mother’s Day, we're celebrating a mother-daughter duo unlike any other - Debbie Reynolds and Carrie Fisher. While these two “unsinkable” stars seemingly look - on the surface - like they couldn’t have been more different, they were a lot more alike than they liked to admit. Debbie and Carrie both became movie stars at the tender age of 20. And individually, they also endured a lot - all in the unforgiving glare of the Hollywood spotlight. There were high profile divorces, cheating scandals, drug problems, and mental health issues. But they both handled it with unflinching honesty and unfailing humor. Over time, their epic mother-daughter differences gave way to a real, loving bond in which they proved that together - they could get through anything.

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0:00.0	Wonderry Plus subscribers can binge the newest season of Even the Rich before anyone else.
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0:11.6	Okay, Eresha, obviously we are both super close to our moms, but did you ever have any like like, tumultuous times with your mom? Like,
0:22.7	growing up, was there ever, did you have that teen phase where you were a nightmare?
0:28.0	My mom and I clashed, I mean, not crazy, but we did clash a little bit. Yeah. I think normal
0:33.1	stuff. Yeah, same. Well, today we're talking about a successful showbiz mother-daughter duo that had quite an interesting relationship.
0:42.8	Individually, they each reach the pinnacle of Hollywood success and the lowest of lows.
0:47.5	And as a mom and daughter, they had their share of rocky moments and a lot of joy, too.
0:52.8	Today, we're talking about the iconic and incomparable
0:55.5	Debbie Reynolds and her daughter, Carrie Fisher. It's 1974 and 17-year-old Carrie Fisher has just
1:08.4	landed in New York City to have it out with her mom,
1:11.3	movie star Debbie Reynolds.
1:13.4	Debbie is insisting Carrie go to drama school in London, tomorrow.
1:18.0	But Carrie doesn't want to.
1:19.9	They just spent six hours on the phone last night fighting about it and got nowhere.
1:24.1	So Carrie hopped on a red eye to argue her case in person.
1:28.4	But the trip is a futile one.
1:30.4	Debbie won't budge, and Carrie's so angry that Debbie knows their relationship will never
1:35.1	be the same.
1:36.4	And she's right.
1:37.4	It'll take more than a decade, two new husbands, and a couple of near-death experiences
1:42.6	before Carrie and Debbie come back together.
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