Hi everyone, it's Sophia. Welcome back to work in progress.

Today's guest is a world-class designer and one of the most creative people in business.

That's actually a direct quote from Fast Company. And she happens to be a person who I have the

most enormous brain crush on, so I am elated that she's here today. We are welcoming the

in-immittable Debbie Millman to work in progress. Debbie is a graphic designer and an educator.

She's presented keynote lectures from Princeton University to the Hong Kong Design Association

to Barcelona's Festival of Art and Design. She's also a powerful voice in the podcasting community.

Her show Design Matters dates back to almost the birth of the medium and has maintained a

strong following for almost 16 years. Apple podcasts has even designated Design Matters

as one of the best overall podcasts ever. As an activist, Debbie has contributed to a variety

of organizations dedicated to the eradication of sexual assault and domestic violence,

and she's even taken a more hands-on role as part of Marish Gahargetay's Joyful Heart Foundation.

Most recently, Debbie has authored a brand new book called Why Design Matters.

The book features transcripts of some of Debbie's best interviews from Design Matters,

quotes from her expert guests, beautiful photography, and of course, stunning design.

We'll get more details about the book, as well as Debbie's career and her passion for causes

in this episode. I hope you enjoy.

Well, hi. I'm just, I'm so thrilled to have you on the show today, Debbie. Thank you so

much for joining me. Oh, my absolute pleasure, Sophie. I was so excited to meet you and to be here

with you. I'm such an enormous fan of yours of your writing and your speaking and your work

and your podcast and the way that you help so many people really consider and understand design.

Thank you. Thank you very much. And I'm so excited to talk to you about it because I

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