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Debating the Paternalist 'Nudge'

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4.5979 Ratings

🗓️ 12 April 2010

⏱️ 9 minutes

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0:00.0

This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Monday, April 12, 2010.

0:05.0

I'm Caleb Brown.

0:06.0

It's a new idea with lots of names, new paternalism, soft paternalism, even

0:11.0

Libertarian paternalism.

0:13.0

Whatever you call it, the goal is to change our behavior

0:15.6

for the better, according to our own stated preferences.

0:19.0

And that raises all sorts of issues

0:21.0

and is explored in depth in the new edition of Cato Unbound, managing. sorts of

0:23.3

issues and is explored in depth in the new edition of Cato Unbound.

0:24.5

Managing editor of Cato Unbound,

0:26.2

Jason Kuznicki, describes the debate.

0:28.7

As the new paternalists would have us believe,

0:31.1

what is the critical distinction between their kind of paternalism and

0:36.4

old-fashioned paternalism.

0:38.4

The new paternalism tries to give the consumer what he personally wants. So for example we all want to eat

0:45.5

healthier and a common way of doing this that new paternalists really like is to arrange the choices in a cafeteria so that the fruit comes first and you'll pick maybe an orange instead of a chocolate chip cookie.

1:00.0

And this has been scientifically demonstrated.

1:03.0

You put the junk food up first and people take it.

1:06.2

You put the healthy food first, people take that instead.

1:09.6

That's a good example of new paternalism in action.

1:12.6

Okay, and that wouldn't separate what these people want from, say, a Whole Foods,

1:19.7

where you walk into Whole Foods and the design of the store and John Mackey will tell you this

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