Hey, happy Tuesday. We're back with more podcast. We're doing all the things, the news, the little bit of a topic happening up front, talking about reliability. We've got car debates, conclusions. You guys have got questions. There's a ton of stuff. We're going to dive right in. But I am very curious to see where this reliability thing goes. But I think you have news first. I've been doing a little bit of thinking because Stalantis recently announced they are shifting their focus to core brands.

Okay.

Jeep, Ram, Pugio, and Fiat.

You'll notice that does not include Dodge or Chrysler.

Not that those brands are going away, but I thought, what if they did?

Would we miss Dodge and Chrysler?

I mean, we'd miss the Hellcat everything, but we kind of had that era.

Yeah.

All those Hellcats, all the cars with all the Dodgers, all the Charger, Challenger.

We had that era.

And I don't think they got better for the next generation. I think they got worse. True. I think that's been. So I feel like we've kind of done the Challenger, Charger, the Dodge era. All if Dodge went away. Wow. All Chrysler makes are minivans. See, that's the thing. Chrysler can go away and it doesn't matter. Christo can go away, but they sell a lot of minivans. They do. And Stalantis needs a brand under which to make a minivan. True. Do they not? Okay. Well, they have already been towing with this idea. I noticed when you and I went to SEMA November 2025. Because there at the Mopar booth was the grizzly peak concept.

And here it is, the grizzly bear.

They invented a new grizzly logo.

And they took a Pacifica.

They jacked it up two and a half inches.

And mostly it's, there's not really a lot of off-road goodies on here.

Is it the Rubicifica? That's pretty good.

That's pretty interesting. Check this out. Grizzly peak concept. You can see it's got the

suspension lift. It's actually a matte finish paint color, but mostly it's the awning, the racks,

the lighting, the wheels. They put in the first aid kit, the quarter window, molly panels. They did the molly panels on the lift gate and they did the onboard air suspension. It's not really like we made this really off-road worthy. Two and a half inches of more clearance and 31-inch tires. Those are the big off-roady, you know, look. But they've been playing with it. So here it is.

Yeah, yeah. Sliding doors, minivan, sliding doors, both sides, right? A little bit lifted. And it kind of attracted me. Just the concept, not the Pacific itself. I was just a little bit intrigued. And it was just kind of sitting here a little bit ignored. People were kind of looking at it. Here's the orange seat belts. here's the molly panels on the rear corner windows, right? But other than that, the interior was pretty much stock. The seats were finished in a different color. So nothing really bespoke to this off-road concept. Okay. So up top, they had the rack, the lighting, the off-road, you know, to get unstuck boards from under your tires, you know, that kind of thing.

So I thought, huh, if Chrysler went away, one of their brands needs to build a minivan.

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