Hello, welcome in the latest episode of that SEC podcast.

I'm your host Michael Bretton.

Go by SCC.

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And there's our great friend Steven Lassen, the senior editor, over at Athlon Sports.

Steven, how are you?

You surviving with this magazine coming, the writing of it coming to an end?

I am surviving, my friend.

I am, I guess, energized by the fact that we had some spring games this weekend.

We got the NFL draft going on this week.

So football is keeping me going because we have reached the home stretch. And that means like the energy level is like winding down at this point. It's like having 400 carries and a running back in a season. That's like happened since the national championship game as we try to get this magazine. We're getting close though. That's the good news. The bad news is we've got a long way to go terms of content turning around yeah and I don't

know about you Stephen I was talking to my dad today and he said you know for him football

really of course he's kind of a nut like I am but he said football really kicks into gear

after the draft so hey that's this week as you, Shane and I are going to be doing a watch along with all the cousins during the draft. So cousins, if you want to watch a draft, or heck, even if you don't, you just want to hear us BS about it. So come hang out with us Thursday live show. So that should be pretty fun.

But Stephen and I, we got some work to do before we get there.

To get the cousins of the draft, Stephen, we're going to be debating the defining topics, discussions, however you want to say it,

that will define the Athlon Sports College Football Preview Magazine ranking. So a lot of work

via Stephen to discuss, you know, what's going on behind the scenes? What is he debating with this

team, that team? I mean, it's, I don't have you, Stephen. I'll just put it that way.

Mike, the good news is I have not started the SEC predictions yet, so I'm hoping to use tonight show as kind of like a good research jumping off point. I will tell you the bad news is, and I will say it's a good thing you're not like Pac-12, Mike, Mountain West Mike tonight, because man, you know, the transfer portal, we talk about all the entries coming into the SEC.

There are so many teams, like in these group of six conferences that have basically like one

returning starter, zero returning starters, and they all have like 40 to 50 transfers.

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