I think most of you guys already know my perspective on the tariff issue.

It's a very nuanced view.

I'm somewhere in between.

I do lament the fact that we've lost our industry, but I also understand that tariffs are taxes.

And I am, as a libertarian, opposed to taxes.

However, I also understand that the federal government needs revenue.

And therefore, if the federal government is going to exist, I would probably prefer a tariff regime as opposed to an income tax regime. So I'm nuanced to the point that I've upset everybody. So what do I do

in these type of situations? Well, I invite on two people that can battle it out and help me

decide. I got Guy Swan, who's more of the Austrian bent, and then we've got Alex Svetsky, who is essentially

a mercantilist as best I can tell.

I'm just kidding.

Maybe you are.

I don't know.

But we're going to get to the bottom of it.

So, yeah, opening Salvo, gentlemen.

Thank you for joining me.

Thanks, sir.

I was going to say, a good way to have said that is like you've pissed everyone off so now you want to like

divert all of the hate and vitrile to two other idiots it's there for you take it on don't be mad at me

be mad at them uh yeah so i mean that's that's honestly my opinion though like i am i am very much

like i have all of the austrian principles that still guide me but then I also

have very much a pragmatic sense of like well I'm not going to get sound money you know unless I just

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