Hey, pull up a chair. It's hacks on tap with David Axelrod and Mike Murphy. But it will take almost superhuman focus and discipline to deal with Donald Trump in a debate.

It's no ordinary proposition.

Not because Donald Trump is a master of explaining policy ideas and how they're going to make people better off.

It's because he's a master of taking any form or format that is on television and turning it into

a show that is all about him.

Mike Murphy, John Heilman, the day before the big game.

Yes, sir.

And a lot at stake here.

Yeah.

That was Pete Buttiges and we'll get, we'll get,

we'll talk more a little bit,

in a little bit about Trump and his debate style,

as it were, but it seems I mean you know we always these debates get very

hyped and and then they often don't mean anything the last one meant a lot

one of the contestants is no longer with us. Well he's still with us. He's just I mean in this race. Still

Harpenon poor President Biden the last great American. No you're right you're right debates can you

know they are I'm gonna rob your old line there they're kind of the electronic microphone.

It wouldn't be the first time.

Yeah, that's their two-way street, pal.

First time in this episode of the podcast though.

So, but look at the formula right now one we have a minor Democratic panic going on

thanks as always to a New York Times poll which came out yesterday or the day before

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