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Debate Part 2: Who Keeps the Torah? Bryson Gray Vs Jay Dyer

Jay'sAnalysis

Jay Dyer

Education, Comedy, Arts, Performing Arts

4.4902 Ratings

🗓️ 27 July 2023

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

Bryson Gray, who had me on a few months back to discuss Orthodoxy, comes on for a debate on the subject he finds most compelling - the status of the Law. Bryson describes himself as a "Christian who keeps the Torah" and takes issue with our view. We will have a formal debate on the topic.

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slash bandwidth. I asked you not whether he used the term. I said, where do you think the doctrine of

1:01.6

the Trinity comes from? And you gave me a long explanation about him talking about Praxius.

1:08.8

I'm aware of all that. But I asked you about where you think the doctrine of the Trinity comes from and you just said the coining of the terms. You think that the term is itself the origin of the doctrine and you think that the Trinity doesn't directly relate to the history of the divinity of Christ at Nicaea? No, because the Council of Nicaea was not the trinity matter of fact the holy spirit had nothing

1:28.4

to do with the council of nicaa it wasn't even talked about um when it came to the deity

1:32.3

athanasius has an entire book on that so you're you're wrong and he's the father wait so the council

1:37.5

of nicaa yeah wait sir it's called trinity it's your time so you don't know it's your time. So you don't know. It's your time. It's, so you're not aware of the basics of the council of Nicaea.

1:44.6

You don't even think that the,

1:46.0

the guys who are the champions of it,

1:48.8

who wrote extensively about the Holy Spirit.

1:51.3

You don't think that,

1:52.6

that Nicaea talks about the Holy Spirit.

1:56.4

And the Council of Nasea was the Holy Spirit a part of the guyhead

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