Debate or rage-bait?

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🗓️ 16 September 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Jubilee Media has figured out a way to make the issues that divide Americans go viral - for better or worse. This episode was produced by Hady Mawajdeh and Devan Schwartz, edited by Amina Al-Sadi, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Adriene Lilly and Patrick Boyd, and hosted by Noel King. Vice President JD Vance hosting a podcast episode of The Charlie Kirk Show. Photo by Doug Mills-Pool/Getty Images. Listen to Today, Explained ad-free by becoming a Vox Member: vox.com/members. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	The video is titled, Can 25 Liberal College students Outsmart one conservative?
0:07.2	The conservative is Charlie Kirk.
0:09.0	The 25 students are game.
0:10.8	The video has 35 million views.
0:13.7	My next claim is that Kamala Harris is a DEI candidate.
0:18.5	I think that you're going to say because she's black and she's a woman, she's appointed
0:21.4	because Joe Biden promised that.
0:22.4	That video was produced by Jubilee Media, a new media company that draws millions of viewers
0:27.0	with debates like Kirk versus kids.
0:29.6	Many people have praised Charlie Kirk for engaging in these debates, including yesterday
0:33.4	Vice President J.D. Vance, who filled in on Kirk's podcast.
0:36.6	Everyone knew him as this fearless debater, this guy who would take the conservative message into hostile places and inspire younger generations to have courage.
0:45.2	At the end, though, Veep took a dark turn.
0:47.6	There is no unity with someone who lies about what Charlie Kirk said in order to excuse his murder.
0:53.1	Coming up on today, explained from box.
0:55.6	Debate or rage bait?
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