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Now please enjoy the show. This is words matter with Norm Ornstein.

We've got the votes and screw the rest of you.

And Dr. Kavita Patel.

These might be some of the smaller moments, you know, with all the bombshells,

didn't catch people's eyes. So, you're going to be. Hello and welcome to Words Matter from the DSR network. Each week Norm Bernstein and I will talk about the issues facing our country as we head into what might be one of the most kind of nerve-wracking, male-biting, not necessarily deservedly so as Norm and I will get into election

seasons.

And we're welcoming Norm back from Iceland.

Norm and I decided to do sequential European trips just to make things difficult for

our incredible producers with me going away to France and Norm in Iceland and beyond,

we're probably both somewhat settled back in the United States,

but Norm, tell me a couple of things,

it sounds like you, just as I did,

when I returned from France, kind of came back, looked at my phone with all the news,

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