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Debanked for Dissent: How Putin’s Reach Extends Abroad

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🗓️ 6 January 2026

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

A Russian dissident living in exile finds her US bank accounts closed after being labeled an extremist by the Kremlin. Nicholas Anthony interviews Anna Chekhovich of the Anti-Corruption Foundation about her experience being debanked. Together, they unpack how sanctions, anti-money laundering rules, and financial surveillance systems enable authoritarian governments to silence critics beyond their borders.

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0:00.0

Hello one, hello all. My name is Nicholas Anthony. I've published a new report on debanking here at the Cato Institute to help document what has happened here in the United States and maybe steer Congress toward a freer financial system.

0:18.8

And today, I'm joined by a special guest who recently had her bank account shuttered.

0:24.8

But her story is part of a unique but growing trend among human rights defenders.

0:31.0

It's called transnational repression.

0:34.1

I know, that's a mouthful, but this is when authoritarian governments leverage the law to target their opponents who have fled to safer countries.

0:43.4

So to figure out what this is and to talk about the experience, I'm joined by Anna Chukovic, she's a Russian dissident living in exile, and she's the financial director of Alexi Novani's

0:55.6

Anti-Corruption Foundation. Now, don't worry. We might be opening a box of rain here, but I promise

1:02.3

the story will end on a higher note. So, Anna, before we turn to your debanking experience just this

1:08.9

past month, tell the people about the Anti-Corruption Foundation

1:12.4

and what you were doing before you had to leave Russia. Hi, Nick. Thank you for having me here today.

1:20.7

So the Anti-Corruption Foundation was founded by the leader of Russian opposition, Alexei Navalny, back in 2011.

1:30.3

So our organization's main goal is to destroy the Russian regime, the regime of Vladimir Putin,

1:39.3

and we expose the corruption of Russian authorities and oligarchs.

1:44.4

We expose their war crimes, and we try to do everything we can to get rid of this bloody

1:49.9

regime.

1:51.3

And I personally joined the Anti-Corruption Foundation in 2017.

1:57.3

I lived in Moscow back then, and our headquarters was located in Moscow.

2:04.8

It was during the presidential campaign when Alexine Navalny decided to run for president of Russia.

2:11.9

He wanted to have his name on the ballot.

2:14.6

He wanted to give an opportunity for Russian citizens to vote for someone

2:22.8

else, not only for Putin. Usually we have Putin, three, four other random names on the ballot

2:30.1

that no one even knows. And Alexina Van Lee wanted to see his name on the ballot. And we had a big

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