Death doesn't mean the same thing everywhere.

In some parts of the world, it's an ending, a closed door, a final breath, and then silence.

But there are places, real places, where death is treated like a continuation, where the dead are still spoken to, still present, still part of the rhythm of

everyday life. And that's not theory. That's something Cindy Keza has seen with her own eyes.

From the time she was a child standing in her bedroom face to face with someone who had already

died, she's been living in that space between

worlds, not imagining it, not questioning it, experiencing it. That path would take her from that

moment to formal training at one of the most respected intuitive schools in the world and eventually

across the globe.

Through places like Indonesia, India, Egypt, Bali, where death isn't hidden.

It's just understood differently.

Where spirit isn't debated, it's expected.

So tonight, this isn't just a conversation about the afterlife. It's about what happens when you step outside the Western fear of death and into cultures that have never lost their relationship with it.

And once you see that, you don't come back the same.

Death and spirituality tonight.

That's our topic on the paranormal 60 with my special guest

Cindy Kesa not gonna stand here at this to this you will know me you won't know

he doesn't stand for below me Bound like a lot of Supernatural Bavl well, only perhaps not.

Before we begin with tonight's show, literally moments before it began this evening,

I was informed of the passing of a friend.

We're going to pause just for a moment to remember the life and legacy of Nick Pope,

a friend, colleague, and one of the most influential voices in the modern conversations

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