Do you think it's okay to shoplift?

I think it's like a gray scale, sort of, you know, like where it's somewhere in the middle.

I mean, I need to eat, and I don't have enough money to pay all the food and our bills.

So, but the other stuff, it's not really a need.

It's just, maybe it's a little selfish.

Like, I want it, so I take it.

This is death, sex, and money.

You would die to get the attention of this woman?

The show from WNYC about the things we think about a lot.

It's what's called a male pornographic fantasy. And need to talk about more. This woman? The show from WNYC about the things we think about a lot.

So it's called a mal-pornographic fantasy.

And need to talk about more.

Money isn't real, George.

It doesn't matter.

It only seems like it does.

I'm Anna Sale.

Alice doesn't remember the first thing she ever stole.

That's not a real name.

She says she started shoplifting when she was around 15. To be honest, it was probably like something pocket size, like a lipstick or something. And then I

sort of built up to it. I would steal clothes and stuff from Walmart and that kind of thing.

When did that start? After I realized, after I realized how easy it was, that sounded kind of terrible, but I don't know, it was like a year or so, I was probably 16.

And my family had a really rough patch and just couldn't really afford new clothes.

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