I always used to tell people, if you get a name for yourself, the money comes, so you don't

have to worry about that.

I found out since that that's a little problem with that logic.

This is death, sex, and money.

I don't want to die at James Franco's house.

The show from WNYC about the things we think about a lot.

Your relationships are the heaviest components in your life.

And need to talk about more.

It's a matter of money?

I'm in a sale.

Singer-songwriter Robert Earl Keene has been with his wife Kathleen for 30 years.

When we first got married and we were living in Nashville, this woman said, I give you six months, you know.

And I said, you know, you don't know me. It's not like that for me.

That tenacity to stick things out and hold on, even when they get hard, has served Robert Earl Keene well over the years, in family and in his career, in part because his story songs never really found a home on country radio.

I'm truly an outlier.

There's no other way to describe me, but a true outlier.

And it allows me a great deal of freedom at the same time.

There's a great deal of frustration of not being able to, you know, fit in the country club sometimes.

We were dreaming like you was that his sign.

We've made his career by steady touring.

At 59 years old, he still plays about 120 shows a year and tends to his loyal fan base that started in his home state of Texas and spread.

His fans love him.

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