This is Real Love, a Valentine special from death, sex, and money.

And she inexplicably mails me a cactus every Valentine's Day?

The show from WNYC, about the things we think about a lot.

Doesn't matter whose fault the breakup was, okay?

And need to talk about more.

Oh, I love her too much.

I'm Anna Sale.

And on this Valentine's Day, we're going to get real.

I like having love in my life.

I don't seem to have been so successful at it.

Having had three husbands.

Since I started this show, I've talked with lots of people, some famous, some not, about their lives. Love always seems to find a way into the

conversation. Being with her is the greatest joy of my life. I was incredibly heartbroken at the time.

I get jealous, but I don't tell her that.

So this Valentine's Day, let's celebrate with some real love stories.

The kind of love, like Mary Jay famously said, that's worth searching for and working for.

I went to a couple's therapist.

I realized part of the problem was mine.

In the next hour, you'll hear from Jane Fonda, who told me she gave up on marriage.

I went seven years celibate, and I thought that was it.

Now in her 70s, she lives with her boyfriend, but still says marriage is not for her.

Later on, sex columnist Dan Savage talks about what he and his husband She lives with her boyfriend, but still says marriage is not for her.

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