This is death, sex, and money from WNYC.

I'm Anna Sale.

And this week, I want to share something with you that our colleagues over at Radio Lab have made for kids.

It's a podcast series called Terrestrials, and it's all about finding wonder, comfort, and rebelliousness in nature.

We're going to share a little bit of one of my favorite episodes of terrestrials

and a conversation I had with Lulu Miller, the co-host of Radio Lab, who led its creation.

When we talked, she told me the podcast comes from a very personal place for her. She's a

newish parent herself, her kids are four and one and a half. And during the

first phases of the pandemic, when the world seemed to be breaking down, Lulu found herself

looking to nature for answers. She was surprised, though, that this led her to make a show

for kids, because she told me before having them herself, she really felt like she didn't get them.

I was the youngest in my whole extended family. I did not babysit. Like, I did not know what

kids were. I was really creeped out and intimidated by kids. So I had massive questions on if I

would know what I was doing, if I would like it, if I could do it.

Like big, big, like, what's a kid?

Questions.

Were you someone who always knew you wanted to be a parent?

I did.

Yeah.

There were certainly times where I thought maybe it wasn't going to happen because, you know, I was like, I was single in my 30s and then fell in love with a woman.

And, like, there were just, there were, I think I always knew I wanted to.

And there were moments where I was like, oh, is this not going to happen?

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