I feel like people accuse me of being something in the vein of like a John Wayne character,

and I think, oh, I'm much more goofy and effeminate.

And, you know, I feel like I have all the colors inside me,

despite this sheriff's rictus on my face.

This is death, sex, and money.

I expect to be well paid.

I'm in it for the money.

The show from WNYC about the things we think about a lot.

If you kill him, you'll have to kill me too.

And need to talk about more.

I love you more and more every day.

That's very nice.

I'm Anna Sale.

Nick Offerman is famous for playing Ron Swanson, the macho, gruff, and exceedingly confident boss on Parks and Recreation.

But Nick says when he moved to Los Angeles in his mid-20s, after some success in the Chicago theater scene, it wasn't confidence that motivated him.

A friend of mine was about 20 years older than me, and he was someone I looked up to in the Chicago theater community. And he was a bit lost. He drank too much. He was lonely. He couldn't keep a

relationship going. And I had a fear that if I stuck around, I could sort of end up like him.

So he left. But the transition to Los Angeles was not smooth. Nick was living in a friend's

unfinished basement, drinking a lot, and taking any acting

parts he could get. His first gig was on a Nickelodeon show called Cablam.

Hey, little peanut putter, you look hungry. Here's a putter pretzel to tide you over.

I played the antagonist, Colonel Kudzu. Okay, divothead, prepare for pulverization.

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