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Death, Sex & Money - ‘It Just Denies Reality’: Abortion Access and the Law After Dobbs

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🗓️ 14 June 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Mississippi-based reproductive justice activist Laurie Bertram Roberts updates Anna on life after Dobbs. Plus, a story from the podcast More Perfect on two legal scholars’ reimagining of abortion law.

You can hear Anna’s original conversation with Laurie here (https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/deathsexmoney/episodes/abortion-dobbs-v-jackson-mississippi-death-sex-money), and subscribe to More Perfect here (https://link.chtbl.com/mrUQogCI?sid=dsm). 

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0:00.0

Before we get started, a heads up that this episode contains some explicit language and also discusses pregnancy loss.

0:07.0

We're forced to be put into places of being like the abortion gatekeepers or the food pantry gatekeeper or the diaper gatekeeper because there's this scarcity of resources that's a fake scarcity.

0:21.8

There is no scarcity.

0:23.7

There's just people hoarding shit.

0:29.2

This is death, sex, and money.

0:34.1

The show from WNYC about the things we think about a lot and need to talk about more.

0:43.3

I'm Anna Sane.

0:49.8

It was a year ago this month that in the United States, the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, totally remaking the policy landscape for abortion.

1:00.5

Last summer, I talked to Lori Bertram Roberts, who runs the Mississippi Reproductive Freedom Fund in Jackson, Mississippi.

1:08.1

Jackson, a city whose abortion clinic was at the center of the Dobbs case that overturned the constitutional right to an abortion, and where that clinic is now closed.

1:18.8

Lori is a single parent of seven kids and disabled, and they've lived in Mississippi most of their adult life, working on abortion access.

1:30.4

But a year ago, Lori emphasized how they see their work is much broader than that. I became a reproductive justice activist because

1:36.1

my life has been full of reproductive injustice, not just my reproductive health life,

1:42.9

because reproductive justice is broader than that,

1:45.9

but in just my right to parent my kids and be recognized as a full, you know, responsible,

1:53.4

adequate human being as not just a teen parent, but as a teen black parent, and just as a

1:58.9

black parent, single parent, at all.

2:01.9

Lori also told me a year ago about working in the abortion rights movement in Mississippi,

2:07.7

about the frustrations that have come with that over the years,

2:11.2

feeling dismissed, talked down to, and generally unsupported by a lot of the national activist and big donors.

2:19.3

Do you ever get a phone call where they say, Lori, what do you need? Tell us what you need?

2:25.3

And we'll give you the money to do it?

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