Death, Sex & Money - In Our Marriage, Psychosis Comes and Goes
Death, Sex & Money
Slate Audio
4.6 • 7.7K Ratings
🗓️ 15 November 2023
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Summary
When Giulia Lukach had her first manic episode, it seemed to come out of nowhere. She was in her late twenties, and had been married to her husband, Mark, for three years. “For him it was just so new because I’ve always been the happy girl,” Giulia told Anna in an interview in 2015. Her psychosis was dark and intense.“ The only thing she could talk about was the devil and that she needed to protect the world because the devil was inside her,” Mark said in their 2015 interview.
In 2023, Mark and Giulia sat down with Anna again. In the intervening years, they had a second child, and after years without Giulia having a manic episode, they thought they were in the clear. “We had this quasi-pseudo-science theory that maybe by sharing our story with the world, that was becoming this like protective barrier,” Mark told Anna. In this episode, you’ll hear parts of the couple’s original 2015 conversation, and how their outlook has changed since, both in how they treat each other, and how they deal with the unknown. “I have been to war with myself and with my mind many times,” Giulia said, “knowing that my episodes can come at any moment – that's like high anxiety for me – and so I literally live in the moment now. I only live in today.”
Also, side note: Will you be in New York City on Saturday, December 9th at 12:30pm? Come to a Death, Sex, & Money live event at Caveat, a cabaret on the Lower East Side, to celebrate the show’s run at WNYC. We’re calling it Four Interviews and a Funeral. Join Anna, the team, special guests, and dance along to live music. Tickets are available here.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, it's Anna. A quick announcement. If you live in New York City or you can be there on the |
| 0:06.2 | afternoon of Saturday, December 9th, join us for a live event celebrating the end of this era of |
| 0:12.2 | death, sex and money at WNYC. We're doing a live show called Four Interviews and a Funeral |
| 0:18.6 | with special guests, music, and a communal celebration of endings. |
| 0:23.8 | It's at 12.30 p.m. at a cabaret on the Lower East Side called caveat, which is appropriate, |
| 0:30.1 | because the caveat for this event is that we don't know yet what is happening next for the show, |
| 0:34.9 | me or the team, but we do know something special is coming to an end. |
| 0:40.1 | Ticket information is at the link in our show notes, or you can visit caveat. nyc slash events. |
| 0:46.9 | Please come out if you can. |
| 0:48.8 | I also want to give you a heads up about this episode. |
| 0:52.3 | It's about two married people, one of whom lives with a serious |
| 0:55.4 | mental illness and how they deal with that in their family. As we talk, there is conversation |
| 1:00.6 | about thoughts of suicide, so please take care while listening. Mommy has an illness of the mind |
| 1:09.2 | because it's easier than mental illness. So I say mommy has an illness of the mind because it's easier than mental illness. So I say mommy has an |
| 1:12.8 | illness of the mind and sometimes mommy has to go to the hospital to get better. |
| 1:23.3 | This is death, Sex, and Money. |
| 1:32.7 | The show from WNYC about the things we think about a lot, |
| 1:35.7 | and need to talk about more. |
| 1:37.8 | I'm Anna Sale. |
| 1:48.6 | It had been eight and a half years since Julia Lukach had a manic episode. |
| 1:54.3 | In that time, she had a baby, changed jobs, and her husband Mark had written a memoir about their experience together called My Lovely Wife in the Psych Ward. |
| 2:00.0 | Danger seemed behind them. And we kind of had this |
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