There's just like this sense, this feeling that they have way, like they're going to find out.

I mean, that's how I remember feeling.

It's like, you can look at me and see that I'm having sex.

This is death, sex and money.

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Andrea was in the sixth grade when she had her first sex ed talk, like many sixth graders.

But for her sex ed didn't happen at school.

It happened at her church, an evangelical congregation in Texas.

It wasn't quite Pentecostal, but there was definitely, you know, raising hands, people dancing in the aisles, ribbon dancers,

all kinds of things like that. What did you first learn about sex through your church?

That you should not have it until you're married. There would be discussions about it at

youth group, you know, waiting until marriage and what does that mean? And,

you know, I also attended true love waits conferences with my youth group. What was that conference

like? It was kind of like a rally about purity, you know, and what does it mean to wait until

marriage and you get a true love waits ring and, you know, you sign a pledge, you know, and what does it mean to wait until marriage and you get a true love waits ring and, you know, you sign a pledge saying that you won't have sex until you're married? And I think I was 14 when I went to this. And there were girls and boys there? Yeah, yeah, there were. Did it feel like the messaging was the same for the girls as the boys?

I think the messaging is always that girls should behave themselves in a certain way.

You know, don't be alone with a boy.

Don't dress in ways that might cause him to stumble.

That message is, I think, burned into my brain.

Stumble is the word.

Yeah, stumble.

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