You know, suddenly you get a phone call from the agent who says, I hate to tell you this, but you're over. It's done. I went back to Michigan because I didn't want to be one of those guys.

This is death, sex, and money. What would you do if you had a million dollars? The show from WNYC about the things we think about a lot.

He wanted to get me on my back.

He just had to ask me.

And need to talk about more.

I'll be right back.

Don't you go dying on me?

I'm in a sale.

For the last 30 years, Jeff Daniels has been a Hollywood actor working from a home base in the Midwest.

Where it gets hard is when you're sitting in Michigan, when Michigan becomes Siberia.

You see actors that you know you're better than they are. And they're making 15 million. And they're

getting away with the same bag of tricks. And you're worried about whether you're going to get a job

in the next four months because you have to. You have to do something because you've got a family

and a house that has a mortgage and you're living in the middle of nowhere. There was a time

when I couldn't even watch the Oscars. I'd try for 10 minutes and then I had to leave the room.

I get so mad. Mad.

Yeah.

Yeah. Maybe it's competitive or maybe it's, you know, you want to be appreciated for that thing you're able to do.

And that's where the business doesn't care.

Jeff is 61 years old.

And on screen, he's perfected a particular brand of white American male that is not

altogether likable. He's been the principled yet insufferable anchor on the newsroom,

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