Death, Sex & Money - Hot Dates: "I'm Supposed to Be Certain"
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šļø 9 July 2018
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Summary
The first time we talked to Dan, he was wrestlingĀ with how to navigateĀ consent in the #MeToo era. This week, he and I dig a little deeper.Ā
All summer, we're following a group of listeners as they date in real time around the country. We're calling this series Hot Datesāif you missed the introductory episode,Ā go back and listen to it first.Ā
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| 0:00.0 | A couple of friends that have approached me have asked me, Dan, why in the world did you agree to do this podcast? |
| 0:06.2 | Why did you put yourself out there? You sound like a complete idiot. |
| 0:15.0 | Hey, it's Anna, with an update in our hot date series, this time from Dan. |
| 0:26.6 | And I told him that I'm getting out there and describing what I as a white heterosexual man did and what I do now and the realizations that I've come to and the lessons learned |
| 0:33.6 | and what I'm doing differently. |
| 0:36.6 | Dan is the 41-year-old widower in Seattle, who's back in the dating pool after his wife died last year. |
| 0:43.3 | A lot of you had strong reactions to some of the things Dan said about consent in our first interview, |
| 0:50.3 | including how he's trying to behave differently than earlier in his dating life. |
| 0:55.4 | This is what he told me in that conversation. |
| 0:58.1 | What I would have done for is I would have initiated physical contact, and I would have kept going. |
| 1:03.7 | And she said, whoa, not this. I simply would have switched tactics. |
| 1:08.6 | He also told me, as he's dating now, after Me Too, |
| 1:12.4 | he won't make a move at all unless he gets a clear, verbal, and sober yes. |
| 1:18.0 | But in a voice memo he sent afterward, |
| 1:20.5 | he said that's been a little frustrating |
| 1:22.4 | because he feels like the women he's dating |
| 1:24.8 | don't actually find that kind of communication attractive. |
| 1:29.0 | One of the phrases I keep hearing over and over again is, I'm tired of making decisions. I want |
| 1:35.4 | the man to make decisions for a change. I called Dan up to talk about this and some of your |
| 1:41.4 | reactions to his first interview. I want to read you an excerpt from an |
| 1:47.3 | email and get your response. And the listener says, Dan's interview made me want to scream. |
| 1:53.6 | I feel like he's misinformed. And sadly, his definition of pursuing women has nothing to do with |
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