I want to let you know that this episode contains conversations about sexual assault and childhood sexual abuse.

See, here's the thing. When you go back and really write what happened to you, people are going to say, don't you wish you spoke? Yes. Yes. But I was trained from a baby to keep my mouth shut. I was born during

World War II. We did not speak up. This is death, sex, and money. My advice to you is pay the money.

The show from WNYC about the things we think about a lot.

You're killing me tonight.

And need to talk about more.

Excuse me.

Now you are flirting with me, okay?

I'm Anna Sale.

When writer E. Jean Carroll was 39 years old, she'd been married for 14 years. She was living in

Montana and pitching story ideas to editors long distance. Then she was assigned a story that brought her

to New York. I saw the Bright Lights big city and boy, I did not want to go home to Montana.

You know, I had that life for 14 years.

And then I saw New York and, oh, honey, who, did I love it?

I just loved it.

I'm walking down the street.

And here comes a woman with hair, four feet long, blonde, gorgeous.

It was Erica Jong.

That was right after Fear of Flying came out.

Wow, that's quite a welcome to New York City.

Yeah, I know.

I thought, I've arrived, honey. Watch out.

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