Hey, it's Anna. We'll get to today's episode in just a minute, but I want to quickly

remind you first that we want to hear from you right now about child care. Do you take care of kids

for your job? What are the conversations you're having right now that you've never had before

with your employer or with parents? And what are the things you wish having right now that you've never had before with your employer or with parents?

And what are the things you wish you could say but feel like you can't?

And if you have kids, how is the child care situation in the pandemic affecting everything else in your life?

We want to especially hear from people who aren't women who have kids.

We've only heard from women so far.

Record a voice memo or send us an email at death, sex money, at WNYC.org. Now, this episode is special. This

summer, we're doing a series of live Zoom conversations with the authors of new books that we love. Today, Aminatu

and Anne Friedman, authors of the new New York Times bestselling book, Big Friendship, How

We Keep Each Other Close. They've written a book that is both a memoir of their long friendship

and a manifesto about the importance of putting in the work to take care

of our friendships in adulthood. Aminatu and Anne are also the host of the podcast Call Your

Girlfriend, which they started back in 2014 as long-distance friends. They've been very close for

more than a decade, but have lived apart more than they've lived near each other.

When they first met back in 2009, Anne and Aminatu were both living in D.C. in their 20s

and starting to shape their adult lives. A lot has changed since then, and that's introduced

real strain and conflict in their friendship. We talked about all of this on Zoom, on the day their book came out.

Ann was at home in L.A. Aminatu was in New York.

Congratulations on your new book and welcome.

Thank you.

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