Hey there, it's Nick. A quick announcement. I'll be hosting an online listening party for our

Sturgeon Rider and Winged Dog Patreon supporters on December 3rd. I'll be presenting our episode

LaLinia, which has yet to be released in the public feed. On an Adlerstein, the producer on that

story, will join me for a Q&A on one of the thorniest episodes from the past couple of seasons.

Now, usually the term Q&A isn't exactly the most sexy description, but whenever I've done

these sorts of screens in the past, they always seem to generate a lot of fantastic discussions,

so I hope you'll join me. Also, if you stick around to the end of the event, I'll be previewing

the next season of Love and Radio, which is shaping up to be far and away one of the most ambitious

undertakings, not only of this show, but any podcast anywhere, and I swear to you that is not an

exaggeration. To RSVP, please visit loveandradio.org-slash-member and sign up for the Sturgeon Rider

or Wigid Dog Tears. And listen, if you can't afford to be a sustained member at that level,

it's all good. Just sign up, get the link, and downgrade right afterwards. I don't mind.

And again, that's December 3rd, and go to loveandradio.org-slash-member for more details. Thanks.

There are these two worlds. You know, you go to a head shop, you sell these really intricate pipes.

Bongs, dildos, but plugs, like that's the money. Those people are working over a torch with a glass

called Borosillicate. That glass can handle heat shock. What we're really talking about is a lighter.

There's a line in the sand, and on the other side of that line is the soft glass workers,

like furnace workers. They call it softies. You know what they're like goblet jogs, people that

make giant stuff, yard art. You know, that's a whole thing that people crush at yard art.

I'm talking just big leaves and things like that. There's kind of different, you know, factions to

there are just people that are solely hired guns, the industrial like factory boys. They could give a

shit what color it is. They could give a shit what they're even making. And then you got a lot of

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