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Another Day with Ana Marie Cox

Death Cab for Acutely with Esme Wang

Another Day with Ana Marie Cox

Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

News, Arts, Performing Arts, Business, Society & Culture, Politics

4.66.4K Ratings

🗓️ 6 December 2019

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

This week Esme Wang (@esmewang) joins Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) to talk about living with a brain you don’t always feel like you can trust. Esme Wang is the author of the New York Times-bestselling essay collection, The Collected Schizophrenias. She writes frequently about her experiences with both mental and physical chronic illnesses and advocates for eliminating stigmas surrounding them. They talk about the difficulty of “the diagnosis,” why high-functioning is a loaded term, and what it means find faith (or even spiritual guidance in your dog). Thanks to our sponsors! When it comes to shopping for clothes most of us are amateurs. So why not let the professionals handle it? With Stitch Fix, a stylist will do all the work for you! With no subscription required, pick between automatic shipments or only getting new pieces on demand. Shipping, exchanges, and returns are always free, and Plus, the $20 styling fee is automatically applied towards anything you keep from your box. Get started today at Stitchfix.com/friends and get an extra 25% off when you keep everything in your box! FIGS is an amazing company that is making scrubs stylish and functional for the people who deserve it most. FIGS gift cards are available. So next time your doctor, nurse, dentist, dermatologist, or pediatrician saves the day, tell them “thank you” by sending them FIGS. Show how much you care at the end of the year with FIGS! This holiday season, FIGS is going to make that easy by providing you with 15% OFF your first purchase by using code FRIENDS at wearFIGS.com Rothy’s is the company making beautiful shoes for women and kids out of plastic water bottles; AND they are crazy comfortable and fully machine washable too. Plus, Rothy’s always come with free shipping and free returns and exchanges – no risk, no worries, no reason not to try! Check out all the amazing styles available right now at Rothys.com/wflt.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Anna Marie Cox and welcome to With Friends Like These, where we talk about the differences

0:10.6

between us without letting them divide us.

0:15.2

And I can't think of a more personal and intimate way that we are different from each other

0:21.2

and that needs to be talked about and divides need to be crossed then with mental illness.

0:30.6

I talk a lot about my diagnosis, I am bipolar 2 and I am an alcoholic and I take comfort in

0:39.3

those diagnoses because they explain a lot about who I am.

0:45.6

As Mei Wajun Wang talks about diagnoses in her book of essays, The Collected Schizophrenias.

0:53.4

She'll talk about that specifically in a minute.

0:56.4

Her book is, I think this word is overused, but luminous is a good one.

1:02.4

It's wickedly funny and racingly honest and it's about being diagnosed as someone with

1:10.9

skitzo-effective disorder bipolar.

1:14.9

And she is of course a lot more things than that.

1:17.7

The Collected Schizophrenia is a New York Times best seller but she's also written a novel,

1:22.3

The Border of Paradise, which was called a best book of 2016 by NPR and one of the 25 best

1:27.9

novels of 2016 by Electric Literature.

1:31.3

She was named by Granta as one of the best young American novelists in 2017 and won the

1:36.6

Whiting Award in 2018.

1:39.0

She was born in the Midwest to Taiwanese parents, she lives in San Francisco and she can be found

1:43.9

at asmewang.com and on Twitter at asmewang.

1:48.7

And she's also here with me.

1:55.0

Asme, welcome to the show.

1:56.7

Thank you so much for having me.

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