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This is 13, a Taylor Swift fan podcast, breaking down every song, every Easter egg, every era, and every theory.

Hosted by the biggest Swifties, Nick Adams, Anna Kossier hosts, Amy Nichols, and Lacey G.

Welcome to 13, the Taylor Swift fan podcast.

My name's Nick Adams.

I'm Anna, Amy, and I'm Lacy G and today we have got to break down

man one of those one of those songs a track five a track five it's heavy there's a lot of of meaning behind it, there's a lot of weight behind it.

I'm talking about Dear John. A fan favorite, one that makes a lot of people cry, makes a lot of people feel feelings about the potential subject of this song.

We've got to break down Dear John, written by Taylor Swift.

Every time. Well, yeah, the whole album. Well, yeah. Well, yeah. So since Taylor Swift herself never says matter of factly, who the songs are about.

Do we also have to say that this is allegedly about John Mary?

The theory is, the rumor is, allegedly.

Have you highly speculated?

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