BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts Hello and welcome back to another episode of Do

a Leapur at Your Service. A podcast series in which I sit down with some of the world's

most inspiring minds, including today's very special guest, Dean Bequet. A brilliant

journalist who just recently ended his eight-year tenure as executive editor at the New York

Times. Before I dive in with Dean, and because this is somehow the finale already, I wanted

to look back at the second season of Out Your Service. Even though it's been such a

busy year for me, having this podcast in my life has really grounded me when I needed

it most. I continue to walk away from all my conversations, feeling so empowered and enlightened.

Everyone of my guests has been such beacon of light for me during some of the very busy

months. I've been looking back recently and thought you guys might like to reflect with

me. Gosh, I don't even know where to begin. I guess I'll start with when I spoke to

Greta Gerwig recently. She really inspired me to think more deeply about the role failure

can and should play in everyone's lives and mine included. Let's hear a bit of that.

So I applied to graduate school to three different graduate schools for playwriting, and

I didn't get into any of them. But I think in the end for me, it was lucky that I didn't

get in because I think it sped up the part where I had to bet on myself, I suppose, because

I didn't have anyone telling me that it looked really bad promising. So I didn't have

a piece of paper and anything official. So I kind of had to cobble it together. But you

know, I was very lucky with the people I was in contact with in New York and who were

working in theater and film. And it is sort of a learn on your feet thing anyway. I mean,

if I'd gotten into grad school, I'm sure it would have been wonderful too.

It was part of your journey. It made me leap. I enrolled to singing, drama,

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