I think the first step is usually closing yourself off because you feel like it's too painful

and you feel like the one thing that'll make it go away is if you close yourself off.

Hey guys, welcome to the real life podcast where we talk about exactly that every single week, real life, which means some episodes might be about a fight we just had, some episodes might be about a fight we just had some episodes might be about potty training since we have two toddlers and some might be about

Escatological realism because I love thinking and talking about deep theological things and maybe we'll talk about all three

of those in one episode but we hope the show feels like hanging out in our living room

with us drinking a cup of coffee as we discuss faith and family and culture and Jesus.

Me and my lovely wife, Alyssa, are your host

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What's up guys? I'm Jeff. I'm Melissa. And welcome back to the real life

podcast where we talk about faith culture and answer your questions. Drum roll please.

This is a special episode. Why is this a special episode? Because I think of every

single topic that we talk about on this

podcast and not in like a prideful way it's just like Alyssa usually like wants me to she

just says like you pick it and I'll show up because I got to care a baby and the

kids and all that stuff and do stuff so like you just tell me what to talk about and we'll talk about it.

So I do.

But guess what guys, two seconds before we started saying hello on this podcast and

five minutes before she started having that cough attack.

Sorry.

She said, I want to take this one, but she said I'm going to surprise you so I

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