When I was on the TV, when it was live, you know, I said, I refuse to believe this is a lost generation.

Hope is a refusal to accept the situation as it is.

And if we tackle the drive as to why these things happen in the first place, we will and can turn this around.

Well, welcome everybody. This is Simon Gilbert with Inspired and I'm very excited this week because we've got with us Patrick Regan.

Hi, Patrick.

Hey, how you doing?

Brilliant. So by means of brief introduction, Patrick has got an OBE.

He got that, well, I'll let him tell the XLP story coming up now.

And also now he's running Kinsugi Hope which he founded with

his wife Diane. I think that's all I'll say in by means of introduction Patrick. We'll just

get straight into it. So what yeah tell us about your your background, your childhood. What led

you to where you are now? Yeah I think in some ways I was brought up with Christian

parents who really loved God and brought up in sort of the church culture, I guess. But I think

for me, everything changed when I was 16 and I went on one of these sort of short-term mission

trips to London and we went to a place called Carbaud City, which at the time was underneath Waterloo Bridge,

where literally at that point there were hundreds, if not more, of homeless people. And I remember

sitting in a circle with these guys just talking to them and one of them had begged enough money

to get a hamburger and they were passing the hamburger around the circle,

you know, each taking a bite out of it each. And then they handed it to me and I was like,

what are you doing? I have everything. You have poverty and yet you're sharing the needle you have

with me. And then written on the walls of Kabul City were the words, welcome to reality.

Someone had written it in big red paint.

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