Deal or No Deal?
The Ricochet Podcast
Ricochet
4.7 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 29 May 2026
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
But the question we really want an answer to is, "Do we have a deal with Iran or not?" To answer that, we welcome back our old friend Richard Goldberg, a senior advisor at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and the former director for countering Iranian weapons of mass destruction for the White House National Security Council during the first Trump administration.
It's an episode to get your Spidey senses tingling.
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| 0:00.0 | Iran is very much intent. They want very much to make a deal. So far, they haven't gotten there. |
| 0:06.7 | We're not satisfied with it, but we will be. We will be either that or we'll have to just finish the job. |
| 0:14.0 | They're negotiating on fumes. |
| 0:15.8 | It's the Rickochet podcast with Charles C.W. Cook and myself James Lillax. |
| 0:19.3 | Today we talk to Richard Goldberg, who knows what's |
| 0:21.9 | going on in Iran. Really? So let's have ourselves a podcast. Right now I think it looks like |
| 0:28.9 | they want to just make a deal. I don't think they have a choice. They're just going back to the |
| 0:33.2 | internet because they're getting clobbered. Their economies in freefall. They thought they were going |
| 0:39.0 | to outweigh me, you know, we'll outweigh him. He's got the midterms. I don't care about the |
| 0:43.1 | midterms. Welcome, everybody. This is the Rurcchet podcast. Oh, it's only number 791. How many other |
| 0:50.7 | shows have been on that long? Not many, and we've earned it by gum because we're part of the Rookochet Audio Network, but also we've been here for a long time talking to interesting people, and today we've got a great guest. But in the meantime, I don't want to suggest he's late than less than great, but we have Charles C.W. Cook, one of our co-hosts in sunny, humid, Torpid, Florida. I presume it's torpid. It's sunny. It's a little humid. I don't know if it's torpid. Well, same here. It's hot in Adina, and I'm watching the sun mercilessly beat off the roof of the computer, just drive factory across the street. I can imagine that they've got the chillers going full blast. But beyond that |
| 1:28.2 | canopy of trees in a bright blue sky in a beautiful place in America, despite everything you hear |
| 1:33.2 | about Minnesota, it's a great, great place. It's a great world with a couple of exceptions we're |
| 1:38.3 | going to be talking about in just a bit. But Charles scouring the news here, taking a look at what |
| 1:42.0 | is up. It's apt these days that most stories seem to be Trump says he's going to do this. |
| 1:49.5 | It doesn't end. |
| 1:50.2 | No, I don't want to phrase that. |
| 1:52.0 | Trump is going to do this, but it's not happening. |
| 1:54.7 | And you have to read into the story, and it's always an offhand comment made in jest or something, |
| 1:58.7 | or it's some proposal that somebody else scuttles. |
| 2:03.0 | It's very confusing. |
| 2:04.4 | One day, we're going to have a $250 bill with his face on it, and six hours later, no, we're |
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