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The Playbook Podcast
POLITICO
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🗓️ 19 December 2025
⏱️ 14 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Today on the Playbook podcast, today is the congressionally mandated deadline for the Justice Department to release the Epstein files. |
| 0:14.1 | President Trump heads to North Carolina tonight for the next stop on his affordability tour. |
| 0:19.7 | And Erica Kirk, the widow of the late Charlie Kirk, |
| 0:23.3 | endorses J.D. Vance for president in 2028. Hello, I'm Adam Wren. And I'm Megan Messerly. It's Friday, |
| 0:30.1 | December 19th. The first story driving Washington's conversation today is the Epstein files. Megan, today is the deadline for |
| 0:39.2 | the DOJ to release the files. So we know that the Epstein Files Transparency Act, signed by Trump |
| 0:46.5 | on November 19th, gave the DOJ a 30-day deadline to release its files on the Epstein investigation. The DOJ, Megan, reportedly redacted |
| 0:57.7 | thousands of pages, according to CNN. Megan, in a year where the administration has really |
| 1:04.7 | flooded the zone, this is broken through in a significant way. I'm curious, do you think there's any meat left on the bone in |
| 1:12.7 | terms of unknowns that we might get from the latest drop of the Epstein files? |
| 1:18.4 | I mean, that's the million dollar question. Folks want to know what's in those files. |
| 1:23.4 | And ultimately, I think what the White House wants here is to lay this issue to rest, right? |
| 1:30.1 | They are not happy about having to deal with this. They would much rather be talking about |
| 1:35.7 | what they see as the president's successes and honing another message on the economy. They |
| 1:41.1 | don't want to be talking about Jeffrey Epstein and yet it is a story that has |
| 1:44.3 | continued to plague them over the course of the year. At the same time, if those files come out and |
| 1:49.5 | it's sort of there's no there there, this will sort of let the White House put this issue to rest. |
| 1:55.0 | And so I think that's what they're really counting on. And then this is important to write for |
| 1:59.5 | the MAGA base. I thought it was very telling |
| 2:01.9 | that the president's chief of staff, Susie Wiles, in that now maybe infamous vanity fair |
| 2:08.3 | interview that ran earlier this week, she said that she underestimated the potency of the scandal |
| 2:13.7 | and sort of the importance of this issue to the MAGA base. And so I think we'll see |
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