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Death, Sex & Money

Dead People Don't Have Any Secrets

Death, Sex & Money

Slate Audio

Careers, Sexuality, Business, Health & Fitness, Relationships, Society & Culture

4.67.7K Ratings

🗓️ 6 October 2021

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

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0:00.0

Dead people don't have any secrets.

0:03.0

In fact, really sick people don't have any secrets.

0:08.8

This is death, sex, and money.

0:12.9

The show from WNYC about the things we think about a lot and need to talk about more.

0:19.9

I'm Anna Sale.

0:29.3

The first few texts that came to my husband's phone,

0:35.3

and then it became more insistent. Where are you?

0:41.6

Why are you not responding to me? This is Amanda. That's not her real name. She first told us this in an email,

0:50.7

but asked us to change all the names in this story to protect her family. I did a

0:57.1

internet search for the number. Realized I knew who it was. I wrote back and said,

1:03.8

this is Sam's wife. He can't respond to you now. He's in the hospital.

1:12.5

Please don't text anymore.

1:16.2

And at what point was that in Sam's coma?

1:19.8

He'd been in the hospital at that point for maybe three days.

1:24.2

I talked with Amanda where she works on the East Coast.

1:25.8

She's in her 40s now.

1:28.4

She was 27 when she got married to her husband,

1:30.0

who was several years older.

1:34.7

He was the most interesting person that I had ever met,

1:44.8

and it was almost like he had tried to live his life a different way.

2:04.8

And that was incredibly attractive for someone like me who grew up as part of a nuclear family with Sunday school, vacation to the shore, and everything was very routine, and I was just enchanted by that. How do you remember those early years of your marriage?

2:12.7

A learning curve growing up. I think Sam had already done a lot of his growing up, and I had to catch up to him.

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